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         Dissenting Voices - KWVA Ad Hoc Group on Yahoo 
        KWVA Ad Hoc Group (a Round Table Discussion Group) 
         Those persons interested in joining a 
        round table discussion group with the sole purpose of sending and receiving information about the KWVA will be 
        pleased to know about Don Finch’s KWVA Ad Hoc Group on the Internet. In recent weeks, the group’s message board 
        has been lit up with lively conversations about the leadership of the Korean War Veterans Association. Among the 
        most interesting comments are messages posted by the KWVA national president, Harley Coon. No words from the 
        Korean War Educator can describe the content of his messages. They must be read by the viewer him or herself for 
        their full impact. All messages on the KWVA Ad Hoc Group are "archived." That means that each and every one of 
        the messages posted there can be retrieved for readers’ perusal. 
        According to Don Finch, the KWVA-AD-HOC Yahoo e-mail discussion group was formed in April 2001, to monitor 
        the operation of the national KWVA and to hopefully right the wrongs that he and others think still seem to 
        prevail. "I decided that KWVA veterans needed a sounding board, so I started the KWVA-Ad-Hoc group." Since then, 
        the round table has fulfilled the need of concerned KWVA members to have a common meeting place where they could 
        share their concerns and ideas. This group was set up to see what could be done about the way the national KWVA 
        is currently being run. As of September 1, 2003, there were 61 members on the KWVA Ad Hoc Discussion Group, with 
        new members being added constantly. 
        Don Finch quit school at age 17 to sign up with the US Navy in January of 1951. He was called up for active 
        duty in April 1951 and sent to the Naval Training Station at Newport, RI for boot training. (He celebrated his 
        18th birthday by obeying orders on his third day in boot camp.) Upon completion of training, he was assigned to 
        duty aboard the destroyer tender USS Arcadia AD 23, which had been mothballed at Norfolk, VA since its 
        decommissioning. Arcadia was part of the Fleet Train for the Sixth Fleet. "The Arcadia was being re-commissioned 
        for active duty," Don said. "I spent the hot summer loading supplies aboard. Later, we were underway for 
        Newport, RI, which would be Arcadia's home port. My duty section was the Boat Engine Repair Shop, where I worked 
        my way up in rate from Fireman Apprentice to Fireman Engine Striker diesel to Engineman 3rd Class. I was in 
        charge of the Boat Engine Repair Shop." He was discharged on April 27, 1954, the day before his 21st birthday. 
        In 1995, Finch joined the Western New York Chapter of the KWVA. He offered to start a chapter newsletter and has 
        been editor since then. He served one year as 1st Vice President, which included being Membership Chairman. Don 
        is a researcher, editor, and webmaster of the "For a Clean 
        Tonawanda Site" (F.A.C.T.S.) Inc. website. The site deals with Tonawanda, New York and the Manhattan Project 
        (world’s first atomic bombs). The site received 68,253 hits in March of 2003. 
        Finch tells the Korean War Educator that the following are a few of the problems that the members of the 
        KWVA-Ad-Hoc group address in their round table discussions: 
        
          - The president ran for a 3rd term even though the bylaws didn't allow this.
 
          - The Graybeards Magazine is a fine publication, but totally censored.
 
          - Bylaws are ignored.
 
          - Communications are either unanswered, or they are answered with disdainful remarks
 
          - The organization is being run as a dictatorship.
 
          - If anyone disagrees with what is being said or done, attempts are made to remove that person from the 
          organization.
 
         
        The Ad Hoc Group moderator points out the following disclaimers associated with the use of the message board: 
        
          - DISCLAIMER #1: Postings reflect the opinions of the individual writers. They are presented as is and are 
          not checked for veracity. Being of a thought-provoking nature, they should be used to stimulate discussions 
          among the members as outlined above in the Description.
 
          - DISCLAIMER #2: The opinions expressed by the Moderator do not, necessarily, reflect the views of the 
          Western New York Chapter of the KWVA (WNYKWVA)
 
          - BASIC RULES: No ad hominem postings (appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect or an 
          attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made); No profanity; When 
          posting a <Reply>, remove any extraneous text; Use plain common sense.
 
          - HOW TO JOIN: To join, send an e-mail to the
          group 
          moderator, Don Finch: with your name, what area you are from and an e-mail address (this is required 
          information). You can also access the group for membership submission by going to the
          KWVA Ad-Hoc Group in the Yahoo Groups 
          Forum. You can submit your name if you are already a Yahoo member. If you are not a Yahoo member, you will 
          need to do this before joining the group. 
 
          - Anonymous requests to join will not be accepted.
 
          -It would be appreciated if you would pass this along to other individuals, chapters, and newsletter editors 
          in your area. 
         
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